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How To Use Digital Information For Profit And Promotion

Some words just sound technical. Digital. Now that's a techie term, though we hear it associated with everyday items from our phones to cameras and online products.

When it comes to creating something digital, the non-techie wants to back off of that right now. Sounds too much like complicated HTML or fancy website creations.

The emails you send everyday are digital creations. The video above is, of course one too. In that example, I use it to give away my special report, "How To Create Digital Cash." In turn, I gain additional members to my mailing list and new product sales.

If you sell information products online, whether they are yours or another's, everything you did was a digital creation.

Whenever you look at website business ideas, vidoes or words online, you're looking at digital products.

Okay, so now we know. You are a creator of digital products. We all are. Whether you're selling information products or sending an email.

But what if you want to sell information products online? You may already have marketing strategies to promote online, but you may be lacking in the right steps to create digital products that will actually sell online.

The question is how to promote online, not just sell. For long term strategies you should be looking at setting yourself up as an authority figure or even an expert in your field.

An expert may mean advanced degrees or massive experience, but an authority figure can be anyone who has an interest in a subject. You become that authority figure by your own declaration.

You can begin to promote online in such a way as to increase your exposure and credibility within your field of expertise or authority. When you create directed digital products, that is ezine articles, blog posts, webcasts, your are promoting yourself and/or your business.

People will either find you as that expert or you will be able to link them back to view your expertise through your bio on your blogs, websites, or ezine articles.

The ideal promotion is where the reader thinks it’s their fault that they don’t know who you (or your business) is.

One of the best ways to begin this is by getting a free account at ezinearticles.com. Next is making your own blog, also free from numerous sources. There are many other ways of promoting yourself or your business, but again, it's all about creating the right digital products and presence online.

It gets both fun and profitable when you can sit down, and within a few hours, create a multi-part course, ezine article that literally sweeps the world, a webcast that eventually helps hundreds or maybe even thousands of people.

Can anyone do this? Absolutely. We all began at the same place, probably with that question.

It really hit home for me one rainy weekend. I was bored, so I created an exclusive online club for procrastinators. It was fun. I wrote some funny bits, at least I hoped they were, and did a whole online program.

People could join my club for a few dollars. But the very fact that they joined an organization exclusive to procrastinators only proved that they were ineligible. No true procrastinator would take the time to join such a group. So, within 24 hours they would receive a letter of termination.

I put a price tag on it an actually made money. Then, later, I let it out for free and people started passing it around. I added several hundred names to my mailing list. There are people reading this blog post who came to me as a result of this silliness.

After an event like that I could literally say that it is the joy of digital product creation that motivates more every day.

So, the questions are, How to promote online, how to sell information products, how to market more website business ideas, and how to come up with better online marketing strategies?

Master the creation of directed digital products on a daily basis and you will see your stature and your bankroll grow.

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The Power And Profit Of Digital Information Products

The nice thing about living in Las Vegas is that eventually, everyone you’ve ever known comes through here. The bad thing about living in Las Vegas is that everyone you ever knew . . .  ah, but this is a positive story.

The other day an old friend who was visiting asked me about the Internet and my online experiences. He’s a long time marketing pro with a very niche business, now retired.

He’d never done much online, so he asked me how it all worked. Well, sorry, but that would take more than a Starbucks visit to explain.

So I told him a story that got him laughing, which I’ll share with you too. Then we did a little experiment, right from Starbucks, which I think you’ll get a kick out of as well, especially when you can duplicate this yourself one day.

First, the story:
It was a rainy Saturday and my plans for the weekend had been canceled and I was bored. You know how boring Las Vegas can be, right?

I looked at my “To do” list and realized that I’d been procrastinating. So, you might think I’d go to work on that list. Not so fast. I had another idea, which ultimately proved once again, the power of the Internet. But more on that in a minute.

I decided to start an online group for people who’ve been accused of being procrastinators but wanted to prove that they are not procrastinators.  Silly, right? yup. Eventually profitable? I’ll show you.

I am no online techie. I learned to create simple web pages and blog pages, which are now easier than ever and with no technical skill. So, I decided to play around with my idea.

I wrote a special report page for “Procrastinators Anonymous.” This was designed as a humorous piece and thankfully, according to most reports, it proved to be just that, from chuckles to LOL.

I wrote a silly piece that since a true procrastinator would never join such an organization, the provisional memberships were always terminated within 24 hours by the Chairman Of The Bored.

This termination letter (suitable for framing next to the certificate) was proof that anyone actually joining couldn’t be a procrastinator, thus proving to all who’ve ever accused them of same that they were wrong, etc.

Well, this is all just goofy right? Right. But, and here’s the lesson and maybe even for you an AHA. I sold this thing. Sure, for only $7.00, but people were not only paying for it, they were buying memberships to send to friends, etc, too. Now I didn’t make any huge money from this, but it was fun.

Then later I realized that I could give these memberships away and ask those who got theirs to let their friends know about it too. This “silly idea” built my online mailing list considerably, added new customers for other products and services who, in turn, told others, and so forth.

Your Profit And Power
That’s the power of digital products and that’s why I encourage anyone with any kind of business to learn and understand the basics of creating your own online promotions to products or market other people’s products as affiliates and earn a commission. A digital product may be nothing more than an email with a commercial purpose, a zero cost special report or a multi-part paid training program.

When I got the rights back to my book, “How To Take No For An Answer And Still Succeed,” I turned it into a digital product and sold more copies at a higher price than the publisher ever did with the printed copy.

But people feel stuck sometimes, and that’s understandable, so did I early on. So I developed a course for you so that you can  go from making better emails to writing an ebook.

They hype is that it’s all so “easy.” Well, and let's tell it like it is, it’s not that easy, but it’s a lot less complicated than what I had to learn 6 years ago.

Here’s another quick example of you having the power of digital products.

I was able to demonstrate this for my non-Internet savvy friend at Starbucks. I said I would take him out for a nice dinner but that I would get the money from a quick online promotion. I took three popular products and knocked down the price by $100 for each one of them. So, two of the products were now $47 each and one was $97. A great deal and savings for anyone interested, right?

I sent an email to my list promoting this special for one day only. You may have seen this. By that evening there was enough response to use that money for a very nice dinner for three of us.

That’s the power of digital. While there’s time involved in creating anything, you can promote and market online quickly. Since I have no production costs on my digital products, I can literally give them away, though I don’t recommend that. People frequently don’t respect the F_R_E_E product and I do that solely to build my mailing list.

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Oh, and the procrastinator program? I'd encourage you to register for that too, especially if you’re taking the digital course,  just so you can see how it works. You’ll get those links when you sign up. For the rest of you, I’ll send out the links in the next several days.

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No business is easy, but some are easier.

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What I do like very much about the Internet is that you can get started for very little money.

One of the most important elements of marketing online, is list building or traffic. How many people will come and visit your site and how to you get them there?

There are a variety of tactics. Some people work on just one or two, while other experiment with many of them.

It’s also the most frustrating part of marketing online because for the newbie, there’s so much to know and do.

Fortunately there are some solid practitioners, people we know, who have done it over and over again, proven their techniques and then train others how to do it.

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When I was in show biz, many years ago, a comedian friend of mine was desperately trying to hone his act. He knew it wasn’t working but he didn’t quite know what to do next.

So, on an open mic night, that’s where you perform for free at a club for exposure and training, he invited his friends. He told us that the purpose was for us to give him feedback and ideas.

It was obvious, with a few exceptional laughs or giggles, that he’d bombed. A majority of the people in the club were from his group, and most of us were giving polite laughs, except in the case of one well-meaning buddy, laughing like he was high on drugs and helium.

At the time I was a TV producer and talk show host. But I had once been a stand-up comic. A failed comic, but nevertheless, one who’d been there done that. And boy, did I know that feeling!

I’d  discovered that I had two problems in my short comedic career. One, I wasn’t funny, and two, I didn’t know I wasn’t funny.

But on those rare occasions when I’d done well, it was because I had a mentor. Today, we might call him a coach. But he was an old school working pro, who broke down my act and sometimes, with just a slight twist of a word or timing, showed me how to get laughs where none had existed before.

So, as my friend later joined several of us at the bar, his friend’s responses were “nice going, good job.” They were all polite with pats on the back and best wishes.

I could see the disappointment as he walked down the line of his friends and well wishers. he really wanted help. I was at the end of the line. He knew me pretty well and looked me straight in they eye.

“Now, I’m really afraid,” he said, laughing nervously. He whispered in my ear. “Your choice, B.S. or the truth.”

He and I adjourned to a coffee shop alone, where we sat for over two hours. I showed him what I thought worked and how he could build on it. He got my opinion on what didn’t and suggestions on how to fix it.

His next on-stage performance was much better received. He was funnier than I’d ever been and funnier than he’d ever been.

If you’re in business, you need help. We all do. Even when things are running smoothly we are frequently creating unseen challenges for the future. The analogy is like not changing your car’s oil for a long period of time. It runs fine, but inside, slowly, the engine is deteriorating.

When I went into business and later consulting and coaching, I’d had, and continued to have, coaches and mentors. Some were specialized and others were generalists. Most of them were helpful to extraordinarily adept at helping me fine tune.

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All profitable web marketing strategies include the proper creation of digital products.

If you can carry on a conversation, you can create digital products. Those who think they need to be writers, even good writers, are simply misinformed.

Anyone can create a profitable web marketing strategy. There is enough information through courses, marketing articles, marketing ideas and web marketing teachers for you to get your business rolling.

Understanding how to create digital products is crucial to your success. It’s the most frequently misunderstood part of web marketing.

You create these products all the time. They aren’t necessarily for sale. In fact, even your emails are a form of digital products.

You can use everything from online audios to ebooks as bonus promotional items to help boost your sales and increase web traffic.

Everything you do online for business should reflect some form of marketing strategy. Emails with signatures back to your websites, even when sending to friends, and blogging are both good Internet marketing techniques.

Creating your own digital products works well in your niche marketing efforts too. The more specialized your niche marketing, the more important it is to have digital products from special reports to ebooks to blog sites.

Most people misunderstand the importance or are simply ignorant of the powerful methods available to you in the creation of brand marketing and Internet marketing techniques.

People from all walks of life, levels of education, and interest levels are, in some cases, making staggering profits marketing digital products. From arts and crafts to special reports to ebooks. It’s almost recession proof. We want information and we want it when we want it.

Of course, the danger of the get rich quick hype artists abounds too. It’s not simple, but it’s also not difficult to learn the steps to create and market products. It didn’t happen overnight for me, but compared to most new ventures in my life, it sure seemed like it.

Anyone conducting business online should certainly understand the importance of creating and marketing with online products, whether they are sold or used as promotional tools.

Information really is money. It’s the 21st Century’s gold mine.

All good marketing strategies will include the planned, continuous, and very profitable world of digital product creation.

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Digital Dollars

The other day I was working on one of the lessons for my digital course, “Digital Product Creation.” A favorite quote of mine is from the book “Power.” For the life of me I couldn’t think of the author’s name.

So, I typed in the quote into Google and lots of sites popped up. I selected one that said “Michael Korda.” Question answered. Then I looked at the source. It was me! From my book, “How To Take No For An Answer And Still Succeed.” I’d forgotten that I’d quoted him there and I had to laugh.

It did strike a cord, especially given the subject matter I was working on. We live in an amazing age of information. Yet, we can hardly get enough of it.

This is especially good if you’re an information marketer! You discover what’s needed out there, what can help a lot of people and then you supply it. I can Google a lot of material for free, but my credit cards show me that at the end of the year that I’ve paid for a lot of digital information online, and so have our customers.

We can find very specific and succinct information now. The kind of information that can pay off for us and fast.

I was looking for a particular research subject for a client recently. It took me to a research site that had, according to the title and brief description, exactly what my client would need. The price, $1,200 for 1937 words. He’s doing a multi-million dollar project. Is that too high a price? Not likely. Not if it helps make his project more successful.

The price is relative, isn’t it? My book I mentioned was priced at $19.95 in the printed version by the publisher. I got the rights back and turned it into an ebook. I added bonuses and wrote sales copy. That book sells online for $27! No shipping or handling to the customer and no printing costs by my company.

It has lots of testimonials and I can price it as needed and even give it away for special promotions if I like.

And get this, we sold more digital books in two months than my publisher sold in two years! Not only that, I learned how to sell a digital book by buying a digital book about how to create and market digital books!

Of course it’s all about techniques, marketing and strategies.

There were two memorable moments in my early information marketing career. The first was when I awoke one morning to check my email and found my very first overnight sale! The money had been placed in my account while I was sleeping! I love that feeling even now.

The next one was another morning email check. This time, I noticed two orders from the middle of the night. The first one was a customer in Ramat Gan Israel. The second, a few minutes later, a buyer in Riyadh Saudi Arabia! Two very different cultures, both buying my book on how to deal with rejection,disappointment, and failure.

One of the keys is how you promote yourself and your products in advance. The ideal outcome of a successful promotion for someone who’s not yet well known is this: Promote in a way that they think it’s their fault if they don’t know who you are! Again, it’s a technique within a strategy.

Before the Internet, to that even close to successfully, you’d have to buy a lot of advertising, pay for press releases, etc.

When we hear that it’s the information age, that’s one thing. But when we learn how to transform our knowledge, interest, and expertise into paid information, that’s the information age at it’s finest!

People from all walks of life, levels of education, and interest levels are, in some cases, making staggering profits marketing digital products. From arts and crafts to special reports to ebooks. It’s almost recession proof. We want information and we want it when we want it.

Of course, the danger of the get rich quick hype artists abounds too. It’s not simple, but it’s also not difficult to learn the steps to create and market products. It didn’t happen overnight for me, but compared to most new ventures in my life, it sure seemed like it.

Anyone conducting business online should certainly understand the importance of creating and marketing with digital products, whether they are sold or used as promotional tools.

Information really is money. It’s the 21st Century’s gold mine.

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I was extolling the virtues and the power of the Internet to a group the other night. It’s become of core of many lives. A very beneficial core.

But an example, unfortunately, for too many, is this analogy: Imagine having the car of your dreams in your driveway. You could go anywhere, do anything you like with it.

But all you did was sit in it a few hours a day and listen to the radio.

A waste? Sure, but that’s the same waste that so many throw away with their Internet connections.

Business people especially.

To be sure, there are great failures online. I know! I’ve tried things that I was sure could not miss. So much for confidence.

The beauty is that we can test for practically free. We can promote and market ourselves, our businesses, our products and our interests around the world.

The techniques for being visible are available to us all, yet we often shrug our shoulders and think, “Well, it works for others but not for me.”

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Digital empires have already been built and many of us are building new ones. The good news is that there is plenty more room. Especially for those who are willing to pay and pave their way with diligence, investment in their futures and follow-up.

With smart moves and wise applications of new knowledge, amazing things are possible today. But not everything is to be believed. You will need help. What you are willing to do in return will be proportionate to your success.

Some years ago I had a business associate who was also a practicing MD. While he was a good doctor, he felt that his calling was to be an entrepreneur.

His income as an MD was solely determinate on his physical presence. That’s true for most jobs and careers, so no surprise there.

I owned part of a company where he’d become an independent distributor. we had a line of nutrition products designed at a prestigious university, so it was in alignment with his beliefs.

His part time income was increasing to the degree that it would one day surpass that of his medical practice. But he knew he needed additional help if he was to become a successful entrepreneur.

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We had corporate jet and were in the sky a lot. He would leave his practice for days at a time and get his questions answered with us as we flew around the country. We paid his expenses, and in return for our coaching, he spoke and consulted for us and our customers for no charge.